[neil harrison]

Hi All. Please can anyone who employs the content of this standard please drop a short explanation into this chat.

I’ve taken a look at it and it wasn’t what I was expecting.

BR

neil

 

[neil harrison]

Hi Ian.

Thanks for keeping an eye on this.  I wasn’t able to get that link to work.  Does it still work for you?  

I think IES is a repository in Github that sits in the dstl area

I have registered with Github.  Do I need to request access to the dstl respository areas? 

When I used the link above I got a 404 error.

When i searched the Github site for Information Exchange Standard i got no results.

When i searched the Github site for IES i got no results.

I can get access to other dstl repositories such as 

https://github.com/dstl/Stone-Soup

There are 29 repositories all labelled public bit IES isn’t one of them.

Please advise if you can.

BR

Neil

[neil harrison]

Hi Paul. 
Thanks for the information. I’m interested to hear you are part of the group who own and maintain the standard.  Is that called the “entity working group”?  Can you let me know a bit more about the group?  Do you have any workshop consultations? Do you have any conferences? Is there a website with presentations?  How does dstl fit in? Br Neil 

[neil harrison]

HI Andy

The bottom of the front page of the pdf I have is Page 1 of 185.  This is the TOC.  It looks like we have the same one but you have more information.  (I don’t need copy)

BR Neil

[neil harrison]

Hi Andy

The IES standard that I have is only 185 pages, I see that your copy is 282 pages so I’m not sure what’s happened there.

I understand your task and I can see your engagement with this document.  The architectural views I have are not going to be relevant to your work I’d say.   In my context the Data that I’m interested in exchanging between organisations, is to do with the nature of the “product or service” they are providing and not the operational data exchanges. So its one of those things.  It is hard to know what a document will contain all you have to go on is the statement:

“The IES standard is used by Government departments and agencies within the UK for the exchange of data”

 

I was casting a wide next and thinking perhaps that the term “Data” could have meant design architectures, user manuals, information protocols etc. which I suggest are all needed for us to achieve Digital Twin objectives. 

In the end the IES wasn’t the backbone document I was hoping it would be.

BR

Neil

[neil harrison]

Hi Andy

I had to do a lot of digging to get the pdf document below (see screen shot).  Is this the one you have?  I didn’t feel at liberty to share it.  Sorry, I do not know of an official publication website.  I’d be pleased to discover if there is one.  Its quite ironic isn’t?  Fancy the UK having an information exchange standard, that is hard to exchange?

In the end the document did not contain the information that I expected.  I am currently investigating some other possibilities.  

This one is quite interesting:  ISO 10303-239 “Product Life Cycle Support” Edition 3 project, Application Protocol For Product Life Cycle Support (PLCS) .  link here

This is a consultancy committee that can be influenced but the consultation period is closed for this draft.

The snag that I’m trying to resolve is capturing the an architectural view of a project, in an industry recognised format, which that is digestible to non-technical folks.  I currently produce business context views and systems context views that are well received by my stakeholders as they provide a “one page” summary of the “enterprise”.  It enables me to identify interactions and hence information exchanges.  These views are very powerful but as I say they are just to my own format.  I would be interested in other reference sources if you know of any that i would be able to adopt.

BR Neil

[neil harrison]

Hi Peter.

Lets hope David has something, the clue below says it was released in sept 2020 but I cant find it.

Thanks for your reply.  I spotted the description of “available soon” in the document below:

A Survey of Industry Data Models and Reference Data Libraries.   To identify requirements for, and provide input to, a Foundation Data Model. Version 1

link here industry_data_models_and_reference_data_libraries_0.pdf (cam.ac.uk)

Do you know when that was published (there is no version history page of the document I seen).

There is also some reference to the IES on this page.

link here A Survey of Industry Data Models and Reference Data Libraries – DT Hub Community (digitaltwinhub.co.uk)

10.1.5    Maintenance and usageThe IES standard is actively maintained.  Version 4.2 was released on 2nd September 2020.  Version 1.0 was released on 3rd June 2015, and there has been a succession of revisions since then.The IES standard is used by Government departments and agencies within the UK for the exchange of data, and particularly by the legal community and Home Office for data concerning warrants.  The standard is also used for inter-government exchange by Australia, Canada, NZ, UK, and USA.

BR Neil