[Nick M]

11 minutes ago, Tom Hughes said:

@Brian thank-you for your presentation and the interesting discussion. You mentioned DAFNI as a ‘cornerstone’ of achieving the National Digital Twin vision. I would be really interested in your perspective on what you feel some of the other cornerstones may be.   

Hi Tom,

Thanks for this. Brian might add more into this – but just quickly.

These Digital Twin Talks are a good way to find out about some of these cornerstones. For example, the talk last week with the ODI was a great introduction to the data infrastructure needed to to support digital twins.

The video from the ODI talk is still available here: https://digitaltwinhub.co.uk/digital-twin-talks/

(And we will also add the video from Brian’s talk to the same page within the next couple of days)

Many thanks

Nick

 

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Hi @Brian and @Marion

It would great to hear what DAFNI is doing at a city level please and what data you have that might address city challenges. This is one of the areas where there is a lot of interest (and need) to combine data sets and models.

Many thanks

Nick

 

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4 minutes ago, Brian Matthews said:

Hi Steven,

We will allow public/open data sets to be available through DAFNI – but we are also very aware of the licencing conditions and sensitivities of data.  So we would respect the data owners and allow them to release data as they want.  We would want to promote the FAIR principles – as open as possible, as closed as necessary.

Brian

 

Hi Steven and Brian,

Many thanks for the points around geospatial data. The National Digital Twin programme is working with the Geospatial Commission to look at this we see strong interest from DT Hub members in geospatial data/model and in combining this with hydrological, environmental and other data sets.

This could also be a really important area where DAFNI can help industry to make progress.

Nick

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@Brian 

It would great to get your overall thoughts please on how  DAFNI contributes to providing the data infrastructure needed for digital twins please? 

Many thanks,

Nick

 

[Nick M]

5 minutes ago, Brian Matthews said:

HI Simon,

An interesting question.   These would be like predictive twins – but the feedback into the physical system is less direct.  Certainly you nwould want to run twin models over historic data for learning and assurance – and also to validate your models.

Brian

 

Hi Simon – thanks for this. To offer a different perspective on this, we are also seeing examples of digital twins being used to monitor historical assets for conservation purposes (e.g movement of underground medieval walls), and see how this may impact related underground  utility assets.  Looking at historical data, and potentially current data and predictions.

[Nick M]

Welcome to the start of today’s Digital Twin Talk and a big thank you to @Brian from DAFNI for joining us. We’re looking forward to getting your thoughts and questions related to Brian’s video – and maybe posing one or two of our own.

Please do start adding your thoughts by replying to the conversation thread.

 

[Nick M]

Many thanks to @olivierthereaux and to all of you for some really interesting comments and questions.  We are now coming to the end of our live chat but we will keep this space open and available for a couple more days in case you have further thoughts or comments that you would like to add. We will continue to monitor the discussion during that time, but on a less frequent basis.

We had multiple  conversation threads – we’ll reflect on each of these and work out the best way to take this forward and link into the work of the DT Hub and the wider National Digital Twin programme.

If  you didn’t already, you can register your interest from the home page and you can also contact us on enquiries@digitaltwinhub.co.uk

Thank you all very much again.

 

[Nick M]

Hi @olivierthereaux

Another question that I think people might be interested in.

You make a really interesting comparison with the world wide web. What can we learn from the work being done by the World Wide Web Consortium on the Web of Things related to data and interoperability for IoT please?

 

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19 minutes ago, Richard Stirland said:

Agree with this also. One of the things we’ve been doing within BIM4Water is using Uniclass as a common classification for data items at an equipment level (pump, valve) – but one of our groups run by a colleague David Bell, has started to look at how we can apply this common classification at higher levels of our Water Industry data hierarches, so facilitate potential standardisation at higher levels. It would be interesting to look at how this approach could be applied at a cross-sector leve. 

Thanks for this Richard. Pipes and valves (e..g. steam pipes in power plants) are  one of the examples we are seeing on need/value for cross-sector consistency on taxonomies and classifications.

[Nick M]

Hi @olivierthereaux

What is the relationship between a network of twins and a National Digital Twin for the built environment please?

[Nick M]

3 minutes ago, Chris Jones (NWG) said:

Agree.

I noted the emphasis on ‘purpose’ in the GE definition – we also explored this with partners at Innovate East. It is clear that the need for common understanding (if not actually a standard) starts with defining the purpose and value.

Thanks Chris and Andrew. I think that you have been doing some interesting work to look at connections between twins in different sectors/areas (or twins that connect across these sectors). Are there any specific thoughts on what might help networks of cross-sector twins?

[Nick M]

37 minutes ago, iain miskimmin said:

Network of Twins…

A potential case study is already out there, where the UK’s Royal Engineers conduct cross sector analysis of infrastructure primarily to understand criticality and vulnerability for disaster protection and relief, but this also create the basic framework that a network of twins could be hung from. Its been used in real situations in places like Nepal after the Earthquake and The British Virgin Islands after the Hurricane. In my part time role as a reservist i am involved in this and can assist if it is of interest?

Hi Iain – Many thanks for this. It does sound like an interesting example and it would be great to find out more (including any highlights that are directly relevant to today’s discussion or we could follow up on it 1-2-1)

[Nick M]

(the video was here originally, moved to first post)

 

[Nick M]

Many thanks for this post Rhett. We’ve certainly seen interest in the potential use of digital twins for planning purposes from cities and local authorities, as well as from utilities and other organisations that are undertaking long term and strategic planning. 

There is also certainly lots of potential for digital twins in buildings (for planning and operational purposes). We’re keen to involve organisations that are developing twins for buildings (the DT Hub addresses the built environment as a whole).

It would be great if you are happy to share any perspectives on the work that you are doing/considering around digital twins and planning/buildings please, as well as any thoughts you have on other organisations you would like us to reach out to in future.

Many thanks,

Nick (DT Hub facilitation team)

 

[Nick M]

Hi Ian. Many thanks for sharing this.

This sounds really interesting and highly relevant to our first theme for the DT Hub. If there are any points from your Domain Ontology that you would like to share with this community then we’d be very happy to help you to summarise those and solicit feedback.

Thanks again, Nick Monnickendam