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Meeting the Digital Twin Challenge discussion
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Hi Nick,
7 minutes ago, Nicholas said:
@Brian Matthews
It would great to get your overall thoughts please on how DAFNI contributes to providing the data infrastructure needed for digital twins please?
Many thanks,
Nick
DAFNI provides an integration hub. We have a metadata framework that allows us to bring together and link data sets from different sources within the same platform , with a base of rcapturing datasets, geospatial and sensor data, and extensions for domain metadata. We would then support the work of for example the National Digital Twin Programme commons . We want to provide a place for people to link, share and exchange data.
Brian
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2 minutes ago, Nicholas said:
Hi Steven and Brian,
Many thanks for the points around geospatial data. The National Digital Twin programme is working with the Geospatial Commission to look at this we see strong interest from DT Hub members in geospatial data/model and in combining this with hydrological, environmental and other data sets.
This could also be a really important area where DAFNI can help industry to make progress.
Nick
In DAFNI we are working hard to connect with other data centres and data sources enabling researchers to access this data from a single source. For instance climate data is available from Jasmin and we are building links with them to enable sharing of data through DAFNI. We are very interested in doing this for other data types/sources.
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44 minutes ago, Brian Matthews said:
Hi Keith,
We are currently working on our current release – we’ll publish the details of the metadata framework with release. We are using a standard for capturing metadata on datasets call DCAT and combining that with Geospatial and sensor standards. The metadata should be extensible fro different domains. Would there be any standards you would like to see included?
thanks
Brian
Hi Keith,
We would welcome you and anyone else that might be interesting in learning more about DAFNI developments, to join our mailing list as we will post details of the metadata framework via our newsletter. You can join it via this link: https://www.dafni.ac.uk/#subscribe.
Kind regards
Marion Samler
DAFNI Partnership Manager
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2 minutes ago, Guest Andrew Z said:
Brian, thank you. You have mentioned the legacy assets. What type of assets, DAFNI as a platform, mainly keeps – the new ones, which had digital model from the start, or legacy, which needed to be ‘digitised’ recently?
Much of our current pilots have been on planning of new assets – e.g. where to place a new railway stations.
But DAFNI is a flexible platform – it can support and connect models and data as are needed and can relate to both legacy and new assets – this is really driven by the needs of researchers and users. So if you wish to explore legacy systems, then we are happy to support those too.
thanks
Brian
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Hi @Brian and @Marion
It would great to hear what DAFNI is doing at a city level please and what data you have that might address city challenges. This is one of the areas where there is a lot of interest (and need) to combine data sets and models.
Many thanks
Nick
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Just now, Nicholas said:
Hi @Brian Matthews and @Marion Samler
It would great to hear what DAFNI is doing at a city level please and what data you have that might address city challenges. This is one of the areas where there is a lot of interest (and need) to combine data sets and models.
Many thanks
Nick
We will have city level data from our partners i.e. UKCRIC Urban Observatories. This city level data relates to Newcastle, Sheffield, Bristol, and following these will will be looking to bring on data from Birmingham, Manchester and Cranfield.
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4 minutes ago, Guest Yu(Steven) ZHANG said:
Hi Nick,
Thanks for the updates, geospatial data is an interesting and exciting area. I guess DAFNI may be able to help Geospatial Commission to <Building correlations between geospatial datasets>
Thank you – we have been in touch with teh geospatial commission, and would want to follow up more!
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2 minutes ago, Marion Samler said:
We will have city level data from our partners i.e. UKCRIC Urban Observatories. This city level data relates to Newcastle, Sheffield, Bristol, and following these will will be looking to bring on data from Birmingham, Manchester and Cranfield.
More on the Urban observatories can be found here: https://urbanobservatory.ac.uk/explore/ukcric
We have done some hackathons with them and want to follow up to extend DAFNI’s capabilty to manage (near-) real-time data feeds.
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@Brian thank-you for your presentation and the interesting discussion. You mentioned DAFNI as a ‘cornerstone’ of achieving the National Digital Twin vision. I would be really interested in your perspective on what you feel some of the other cornerstones may be.
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11 minutes ago, Tom Hughes said:
@Brian thank-you for your presentation and the interesting discussion. You mentioned DAFNI as a ‘cornerstone’ of achieving the National Digital Twin vision. I would be really interested in your perspective on what you feel some of the other cornerstones may be.
Hi Tom,
Thanks for this. Brian might add more into this – but just quickly.
These Digital Twin Talks are a good way to find out about some of these cornerstones. For example, the talk last week with the ODI was a great introduction to the data infrastructure needed to to support digital twins.
The video from the ODI talk is still available here: https://digitaltwinhub.co.uk/digital-twin-talks/
(And we will also add the video from Brian’s talk to the same page within the next couple of days)
Many thanks
Nick
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Dear Mark,
1 minute ago, Guest Mark Jenkinson said:
Brian,
Many thanks for the presentation. Are you engaging with any universities / organisations outside of the UK?
Thanks
Mark
Our University partners have extensive international connections. A particularly interesting area is in international development through such funds as the Global Challenge Research Funds. If we can plan good infrastructure in the UK we can also transfer that knowledge to the LMIC countries. Also, we are working with researchers in related areas – such as food and agriculture. On a level of computing infrastructure, my organisation (STFC) is highly engaged in international efforts to build research infrastructure and the communities around it.
thanks
Brian
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I’d be keen to get the thoughts from @Brian and other group members on the pros/cons of DAFNI vs. public cloud providers (such as Azure/Amazon). Also the potential for linking twins hosted the two environments (which links in well with the discussion from the ODI talk last week).
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HI Andrew,
Just now, Andrew Myers said:
I’d be keen to get the thoughts from @Brian and other group members on the pros/cons of DAFNI vs. public cloud providers (such as Azure/Amazon). Also the potential for linking twins hosted the two environments (which links in well with the discussion from the ODI talk last week).
This is a question we constantly ask ourselves – we provide computing for research of all sorts and its always a balance. But we feel that there is continuing value of a specialist common hub with dedicated skills and resources for that community which can be shared. We can use public cloud to expand out – again by having common interoperability standards that can be managed. I am sorry, I missed the dicussion last week unfortunately – were there particular points there which came from that discussion?
thanks
Brian
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8 minutes ago, Nicholas said:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for this. Brian might add more into this – but just quickly.
These Digital Twin Talks are a good way to find out about some of these cornerstones. For example, the talk last week with the ODI was a great introduction to the data infrastructure needed to to support digital twins.
The video from the ODI talk is still available here: https://digitaltwinhub.co.uk/digital-twin-talks/
Many thanks
Nick
Thanks Nicolas – I think you could say that data + community + infrastructure form cornerstones. We hopefully form a part of the infrastructure corner – and other talks point to others.
Brian
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Just now, Brian Matthews said:
HI Andrew,
This is a question we constantly ask ourselves – we provide computing for research of all sorts and its always a balance. But we feel that there is continuing value of a specialist common hub with dedicated skills and resources for that community which can be shared. We can use public cloud to expand out – again by having common interoperability standards that can be managed. I am sorry, I missed the dicussion last week unfortunately – were there particular points there which came from that discussion?
thanks
Brian
Hi @Andrew Myers
Many thanks for this. Also, relating back to the talk from ODI last week, I think that DAFNI is a great example of the kind of data intermediary that I think @olivierthereaux was suggesting will be needed to support networks of digital twins.
Would be great to get any further thoughts you have on areas where this kind of intermediary approach could be useful.
Many thanks, Nick
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