Digital Twins for a Utopian Anarchy

[Henry Fenby-Taylor]

Our discussion with Adam and @Ian Gordon was a powerful and interesting one. 

Adam is deeply cynical and rightfully so that applying new technologies within existing governance structures without changing them. Ian is passionate about providing benefit across society. Me? Well I'm interested in how people think. Although Adam was cynical and perhaps even jaded, I felt that there was a vital passion to him, a burning desire to find the right solution that could perhaps one day lead to no place, to Utopia, or maybe that was Ian.

Tell us what you think and let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

 

[Humanner]

@HenryFT

It is time to align people and environmental needs through new interconnected collaborative organizational models. Establish the bridge between the virtual and offline world as well as connect academics and communities to focus on social impact. 
Why I'm here in this community site? - Everything connect somehow with GIS data to get more exact information. 

#socialimpact #innovation #sustainability #climatechange #environment #environmental #sustainable #people

Scope of HUMANNER to establish the first next generation Multi Layered Social Network as SOCIETY NETWORK = Collective Intelligence

If you wish to hear from others on the same case - WHY - please watch these two videos:

 

 

Edited July 25, 2021 by Humanner

[Henry Fenby-Taylor]

What did you think of the episode @Humanner ? We spoke to someone who is quite sceptical about the possibility of social reform through digital twins. 

[Rich]

Moved

Edited August 3, 2021 by Rich

[Rich]

On 20/07/2021 at 17:34, HenryFT said:

Our discussion with Adam and @Ian Gordon was a powerful and interesting one. 

Adam is deeply cynical and rightfully so that applying new technologies within existing governance structures without changing them. Ian is passionate about providing benefit across society. Me? Well I'm interested in how people think. Although Adam was cynical and perhaps even jaded, I felt that there was a vital passion to him, a burning desire to find the right solution that could perhaps one day lead to no place, to Utopia, or maybe that was Ian.

Tell us what you think and let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

 

Hi HenryFT,

Good discussion and funny 

I love the idea and how much good it should bring to the whole society, I don't think we should force a social reform if done correctly it should happen...start with the end in mind....someone told me that years ago...Star Trek Utopian Society, (I'am not a Trekky) that's where I want to be. I do have concerns though...not insurmountable I hasten to add.

Current social media/networks..not that much of a fan, I was when they started....really liked the idea but it's changed a lot, not sure its for the best yet. But regardless a wealth of data about individuals. What they like and dislike, funny how we don't have a dislike on popular social platforms...at least I don't think we do. (Thinking emoji) but goes much deeper, as a natural thing we do with data is categorise things. The fruits of our labour, bananas, green banana, yellow banana etc we do it all the time without thinking i guess.

Personal data privacy, safety and right to be forgotten...at least to a point. The government know most things about us and that data needs to be protected against nefarious use...sorry too dramatic. Maybe some sort of Government Digital Twin Data Charter.....googling....like this The HMRC Charter - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) and Personal information charter - HM Revenue & Customs - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

I think it's important to have these discussions, like it or not society has its fair share of opinions some undesirable to others, but everyone still has a voice and data, which needs representing. Don't discount he bad data, but use it to understand whats wrong. The old adage is you can't please everyone.

IBM’s Watson for Oncology cognitive computing system, maybe not delivering what was promised. How much can you trust the medias reporting at the moment...maybe controversial.

Too much?

Rich

[Humanner]

On 03/08/2021 at 14:48, HenryFT said:

What did you think of the episode @Humanner ? We spoke to someone who is quite sceptical about the possibility of social reform through digital twins. 

Hi @HenryFT
My name is Janos Deak just I registered with the project email and I thought more important promote the project brand than build my personal reputation. 
I do not belíve any TOP - DOWN social reform will work on system level. Most of the granted research and social projects are died after end of the financial period. Made few conferences for few elite and published some study documents, very seldom with data of the research. I understand why sceptical your conversation partner as I felt many times especial when I see government grants want to resolve systemic problems with isolated and disconnected small projects but I can see some promising signals. 

If we think about DT only as 3D with data integration than I agree do not will work the social reform through digital twins. But if you build a social network based on semantic web and GIS as spatial web and use for example the CityGML / CityJSON than can build a new kind of social network as SOCIETY NETWORK which would support the full life-cycle of collective problem solving with holistic approach. 

We want to establish a Web of Knowledge. This allows to see how any idea is connected with other ideas in debates, through evidence, citations, influence, consequences, etc. Our vision a SOCIETY NETWORK for smart citizens in smart cities would looks like with this functional layers:

@Rich is right the present social networks do not provide those benefits what this great technology would give us. Many of us already recognized the problem with the useless timeline kind of posting system where can't do anything with the unstructured information to reuse in a collective work or research. This is the point where we have to combine into one solution - more unresolved problems and develop a WEB 4.0 Society Network. And YES one of the most important part of BIG PICTURE the FORESIGHT (what if?)/ BACKCASTING - Star Trek Utopian Society and other alternatives.
(Structured multi version Story Telling) Semantic / Spatial web + Knowledge graph (data visualization) + Social Enterprise Architect + Transdisciplinary public engagement  => Collective problem solving

I agree with @Rich comment as he thinking on exactly same big picture as Humanner would do. Yes very important base question the ethic - how our data protected which we have to discuss collectively and make an optimal synthesis from many alternative solutions.  

The social reform through digital twins can based on this multi layered interconnected knowledge, with the option of new generation of virtual user interfaces - but our society not ready for this big tech jump yet. For the general public too fast and too much to learn so many new things - but collective service learning can help to recognise the connections between different things. Combination of Tech and Social sciences are key factor.

We see the trends related with climate problem solving and start many new R&D system thinker projects - so I'm not sceptical rather to say very optimistic. 

I get certified Citizen Social Scientist from Coventry University open college (one of the first 70 students in UK) and I accepted into the limited 30 students at CoAct Citizen Social Science school. 
https://coactproject.eu/citizen-social-science-school-social-dimensions-in-citizen-science/
This also an EU opportuny in CSS fields as one of the H2020 project followed Humanner on Twitter - COESO
https://coeso.hypotheses.org/pilots
(while the other five will be added in the second part of the project by an Open Call for projects.

Humanner is cited in the attached workshop report as - Citizen Social Science in the age of the ALPHA GENERATION

So I'm not alone as believer of the better future.

Interdisciplinary Public Engagement Workshop write-up.pdf

Edited August 8, 2021 by Humanner

[Humanner]

@HenryFT

In 2004, Kentaro Toyama, an award-winning computer scientist, moved to India to start a new research group for Microsoft. But after a decade of designing technologies for humanitarian causes, Toyama concluded that no technology, however dazzling, could cause social change on its own.

So, a golden age of innovation in the world’s most advanced country did nothing for our most prominent social ill.

Toyama’s warning resounds: Don’t believe the hype! Technology is never the main driver of social progress.

 Geek Heresy inoculates us against the glib rhetoric of tech utopians by revealing that technology is only an amplifier of human conditions. By telling the moving stories of extraordinary people like Patrick Awuah, a Microsoft millionaire who left his lucrative engineering job to open Ghana’s first liberal arts university, and Tara Sreenivasa, a graduate of a remarkable South Indian school that takes children from dollar-a-day families into the high-tech offices of Goldman Sachs and Mercedes-Benz.

Toyama shows that even in a world steeped in technology, social challenges are best met with deeply social solutions.